In the Interest of T.T., Minor Child

IN THE COURT OF APPEALS OF IOWA

No. 25-0072
Filed March 19, 2025

IN THE INTEREST OF T.T.,
Minor Child,

STATE OF IOWA,
Petitioner-Appellant.
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Appeal from the Iowa District Court for Polk County, Susan Cox, Judge.

Following termination of a mother’s parental rights, the State appeals from

the juvenile court’s order placing guardianship of the child with the foster parents.

REVERSED AND REMANDED WITH DIRECTIONS.

Brenna Bird, Attorney General, and Michelle R. Becker, Assistant Attorney

General, for appellant.

Nicole Garbis Nolan and Jami J. Hagemeier of Youth Law Center, Des

Moines, attorneys and guardians ad litem for minor child.

Considered by Greer, P.J., and Langholz and Sandy, JJ.
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SANDY, Judge.

The State appeals from the juvenile court’s order placing guardianship of

the child with her foster parents, arguing: (1) the juvenile court lacked jurisdiction

to decide guardianship and custody issues due to a pending certiorari action before

our court; (2) the juvenile court erred by failing to appoint Iowa Department of

Health and Human Services (HHS) as the child’s guardian and by applying other

provisions of Iowa Code chapter 232 (2023) in appointing a guardian; and

(3) public policy requires that courts strictly adhere to section 232.117(3).

I. Background Facts and Proceedings

The child was born in September 2022, and the State filed a child-in-need-

of-assistance petition two weeks later due to the mother’s use of various

substances, including methamphetamine, amphetamines and alcohol. The State

did not request removal at that time. The State finally requested removal in

October 2022 and, following that request, the child tested positive for

methamphetamine and amphetamines. Following the child’s positive test, she was

placed in a foster home. HHS has a long history of involvement with the family.

The child has three siblings, all of whom had been removed from the mother’s care

before the child’s birth due to the mother’s substance use.

The child has remained with the same foster family since her initial removal,

but in May 2024, HHS sought to move the child to a new foster home in which she

could live with two of her siblings. However, prior to HHS finalizing relocation, the

juvenile court entered a preemptive May 7, 2024, order requiring an evidentiary

hearing prior to any relocation of the child. HHS petitioned for writ of certiorari in

response to the relevant orders, and the petition was still pending at the time this
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appeal was filed. We recently sustained that writ, finding the juvenile court

exceeded its statutory authority by wrongfully restricting HHS’s placement

authority. See Iowa Dep’t of Health & Hum. Servs. v. Iowa Dist. Ct., No. 24-0834,

2025 WL 548012, at *7 (Iowa Ct. App. Feb. 19, 2025). One judge dissented and

would have annulled the writ. See Iowa Dist. Ct., 2025 WL 548012, at *10 (Greer,

J., dissenting).

HHS petitioned to terminate the mother’s parental rights to the child in

November 2023. A termination hearing occurred in December, and before a ruling

was issued, the record was reopened in March 2024 to address the mother’s

motion arguing she had made extensive progress. The termination hearing

resumed in May and following the hearing, the juvenile court terminated the

mother’s parental rights to the child from the bench. The juvenile court entered its

written termination order in June.

The juvenile court’s termination order did not establish guardianship,

explaining:

The court further ordered that her prior order from 5-7-2024 re. [the
child] remains in effect. Also, the court noted she was not making
any decisions re. guardianship of the child today.
After the written [TPR] ruling is filed, then the court will set a
separate hearing to address those issues.

The juvenile court set a hearing for December to determine the appointment of a

guardian for the child. The State moved to continue, “citing the juvenile court’s

lack of jurisdiction given the [pending] appeal” before our court. The juvenile court

denied that motion and held the hearing. At the conclusion of the hearing, the

juvenile court appointed the child’s foster parents as her guardians. It entered a

supplemental written order in January 2025 incorporating that ruling.
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The State views that order as error,1 asking that we reverse and remand

“the juvenile court order denying the State’s motion to continue and appointing the

child’s foster parents as her guardian pursuant to Iowa Code section 232.117(3).”

II. Standard of Review

We review parental termination proceedings de novo. In re A.S., 906

N.W.2d 467, 472 (Iowa 2018). “We are not bound by the juvenile court’s findings

of fact, but we do give them weight, especially in assessing the credibility of

witnesses.” Id. (citation omitted).

III. Discussion

A. Jurisdiction

The State argues that the pending writ of certiorari before our court divested

the juvenile court of jurisdiction “to rule on the issue of custody.” While the juvenile

court generally loses jurisdiction over the certiorari issue under review by the

appellate court, see In re B.L., 470 N.W.2d 343, 347 (Iowa 1991), the State

concedes that the juvenile court retains jurisdiction to decide “issues collateral to

and not affecting the subject matter of the appeal,” In re Tollefsrud’s Estate, 275

N.W.2d 412, 418 (Iowa 1979). “Matters that are not directly involved in the appeal

may be dealt with by the juvenile court during the appeal process.” B.L., 470

N.W.2d at 347.

Such is the case here. In the writ proceeding pending at the time this appeal

was filed, our court was asked to review whether the juvenile court could

1 The State also argued that because the aforementioned appeal was pending, the

juvenile court was deprived of jurisdiction to address the guardianship in the first
place.
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unilaterally require an evidentiary hearing to be held before HHS could exercise its

placement decision over a child in its custody. See Iowa Dist. Ct., 2025 WL

548012, at *4 (“[HHS] argues that the juvenile court's order was illegal because it

exceeded the court's statutory authority to review [HHS]’s specific placement

decisions for the [child].”). But in this case, we are asked to decide if the juvenile

court erred in failing to appoint HHS as the child’s guardian pursuant to Iowa Code

section 232.117(3). Although these are both, broadly speaking, questions

involving custody of the child, neither question affects the outcome of the other.

The issue before our court today would be unaffected by the formerly pending

appeal, regardless of whether the writ was sustained or annulled—HHS would

have retained custody of the child under any result. As the matter before us now

was “not directly involved in the [then pending] appeal,” the juvenile court had

jurisdiction over this issue at the time it entered its guardianship order. See B.L.,

470 N.W.2d at 347.

B. Appointment of HHS as the Child’s Guardian

When the juvenile court terminates a parent’s rights and finds guardianship

and custody with the child’s other parent is not in the child’s best interests,2 it shall

transfer guardianship and custody to “[HHS] if [HHS] had custody of the child at

the time of the filing of the petition for termination of parental rights . . . unless the

department waives its priority.” Iowa Code § 232.117(3).

Here, HHS had custody of the child at the time the termination petition was

filed. HHS did not waive its priority—it requested to be appointed the child’s

2 The father’s parental rights were terminated in March 2024.
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guardian. The use of the word “shall” in section 232.117(3) mandates a specific

action by the juvenile court. Although “[s]ometimes courts are justified in

interpreting the word ‘shall’ as ‘may,’” this is not the case where a statute “direct[s]

that a public body do certain acts.” State v. Klawonn, 609 N.W.2d 515, 522 (Iowa

2000) (citation omitted). And the statute’s further clarification that the juvenile court

may not exercise discretion in the guardianship decision “unless [HHS] waives its

priority” further reinforces the mandatory nature of the statute. But the juvenile

court stated that section 232.117 “does not provide a framework to evaluate the

categories of guardianship priority.” We disagree. Section 232.117(3) contains a

directive mandating that the juvenile court should have transferred guardianship to

HHS.

Because section 232.117(3) governs the guardian-appointment decision,

the juvenile court’s reasoning based on statutes governing the selection of

placement categories and review of placement decisions at other times in juvenile

proceedings was misplaced. So too was its reasoning based on section 232.118

governing the removal of a court-appointed guardian. As HHS had not yet been

appointed guardian, it could not yet have “unreasonably or irresponsibly fail[ed] to

discharge” the duties as guardian as required to support removal. Iowa Code

§ 232.118(1). We understand and share some of the juvenile court’s concerns

about the decisions HHS might make as guardian given its past intended

placement changes while the child was placed in its custody. But it is not clear

that HHS would still intend to move the child from her current home if appointed
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guardian.3 And under the governing statutes, HHS must be given the chance to

perform its guardianship duties in the child’s best interest before the court can

remove it for failing to do so. We thus agree that the statute directs the juvenile

court to place the child’s guardianship with HHS. Because the State has prevailed

in its primary argument, we decline to address its alternative public policy

argument.

Accordingly, we reverse the juvenile court’s guardianship order to place

guardianship of the child with HHS. We remand to the juvenile court for entry of

an order consistent with this opinion.

REVERSED AND REMANDED WITH DIRECTIONS.

Langholz, J., concurs; Greer, P.J., concurs specially.

3 At the hearing, the HHS worker assigned to this case in the adoption unit testified

that because HHS was not yet the guardian it had “not made a final decision about
placement” but that he “would not recommend that” the child “move” to a new
placement.
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GREER, Judge (specially concurring).

I agree with the first part of the majority opinion related to the jurisdiction of

the juvenile court and agree that “the matter before us now was ‘not directly

involved in the [then pending] appeal.’” See In re B.L., 470 N.W.2d 343, 347 (Iowa

1991). Thus, the juvenile court had jurisdiction to enter the guardianship order.

I have more trouble with the discussion involving the appointment of Iowa

Health and Human Services (the Department) as the child’s guardian. Having said

that, I read the statutory language as the majority does, so I agree that the

Department must be given guardianship and custody of the child unless the

Department waives its priority or until the Department is removed as guardian for

failing to perform its duties in the child’s best interest. See Iowa Code

§§ 232.117(3), 232.118(1) (2023). But, my concern relates to the mishmash

involved with chapter 232 when these important decisions must be made so that

(1) there can be careful and timely consideration of the positions of the advocates

and (2) the paramount concern remains laser-focused on the best interests of the

child. See Iowa Dep’t of Health & Hum. Servs. v. Iowa Dist. Ct., No. 24-0834, 2025

WL 548012, at *7–10 (Iowa Ct. App. Feb. 19, 2025) (Greer, J., dissenting) (noting

the quagmire involved with how “the Department, our legislature, and our court

[could] align with the process that allows a child to be moved from a long-term

placement, which might be contrary to the child’s best interests, before the choice

of the new placement can be tested”).

Here, once it appeared that the child would be removed from the only home

she had known since birth, the guardian ad litem (GAL) attempted to show that the

Department was not acting in the child’s best interests by unreasonably or
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irresponsibly failing to discharge its duties. It was the issue in our previous

appeal—only related to the choice of placement, where the majority determined

the juvenile court had no authority to restrict the Department by first requiring an

evidentiary hearing. Id. at *7. It is the issue in this appeal—related to the choice

of guardian. And yet, although a hearing on the issue was held in December 2024,

at which extensive testimony set out important best-interest concerns,4 and the

juvenile court ruled that by clear and convincing evidence the Department “failed

to act in [the child’s] best interests by unreasonably or irresponsibly failing to

discharge its duties in selecting a suitable placement and/or guardian for the child,”

no action can be taken. The problem is that so far there is no process that allows

action on that finding. We just keep saying “not yet.” Section 232.118(1)(a)5

suggests that a hearing is the avenue to challenge the actions of the required

4 The GAL called the child’s medical provider, Nurse Practitioner Katherine L.

Scott, Department adoption worker James Blocker, and the child’s foster mom. Dr.
Scott testified that
moving to a home that is more chaotic would lend to increasing [the
child’s] stress level, thus, increasing the trauma and the discomfort,
as well as stress that she is feeling. And at this age, being in an
environment like that can alter the prefrontal cortex of the brain,
which is involved with executive functioning, and we know that high
stress levels can have long-term developmental affects on socio-
emotional, academic, and behavioral outcomes for kids.
5 Section 232.118 provides:

(1) Upon application of an interested party or upon the court’s
own motion, the court having jurisdiction of the child may, after notice
to the parties and a hearing, remove a court-appointed guardian and
appoint a guardian in accordance with the provisions of section
232.117, subsection 3.
(a) The moving party or a party opposed to the actions of the
guardian has the burden to establish that the court-appointed
guardian failed to act in the child’s best interests by unreasonably or
irresponsibly failing to discharge the guardian’s duties in finding a
suitable adoptive home for the child.
(Emphasis added.)
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selection of guardian pursuant to section 232.117(3), but as we find today, that

does not allow action under these facts.

Very few cases address the concerns that I raise. But in the one that comes

closest, In re K.D., the process used to test the harm related to the Department’s

decision-making came after the harm occurred. 975 N.W.2d 310, 321–22 (Iowa

2022). After the Department removed the children from an eighteen-month

placement with their stepgrandmother, a hearing to remove the Department as

guardian was held over a month later. Id. at 315–16. The juvenile court denied

the requests to remove the Department as custodian. Id. at 318. When reviewing

the juvenile court’s decision, our supreme court concluded:

[The Department] failed to act in the children’s best interests
because it directly harmed the children and only added to their
trauma when it uprooted them from their stepgrandmother’s home by
surprise and placed them with foster parents who were seemingly
unaware of the children’s mental health issues or therapeutic needs.
[The Department] also disregarded the advice from the children’s
therapists about their mental health needs through its actions in this
case.

Id. at 326–27.

Chapter 232 operates to avoid harm to a child, and a process that requires

that harm occurs before action is allowed seems counterintuitive. So, tell me that

we have a good process to review unreasonable or irresponsible discharge of duty

and explain it to me like I am a child trying to seek permanency in the juvenile court

system.