United States of America v. LaVance LeMarr Cooper

23-3231Court of Appeals for the Eighth CircuitFeb 28, 2025

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United States Court of Appeals
For the Eighth Circuit
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No. 24-1998
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United States of America
Plaintiff - Appellee
v.
LaVance LeMarr Cooper
Defendant - Appellant
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Appeal from United States District Court
for the Northern District of Iowa - Eastern
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Submitted: January 17, 2025
Filed: February 5, 2025
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Before GRASZ, STRAS, and KOBES, Circuit Judges.
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STRAS, Circuit Judge.
In United States v. Veasley, we concluded that keeping firearms out of the
hands of drug users does not “always violate[] the Second Amendment.” 98 F.4th
906, 908 (8th Cir. 2024). Now the question is whether it sometimes can. The answer
is yes, so we remand for the district court to determine whether it does for LaVance
Cooper.

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I.
Cooper consented to a bench trial on stipulated facts. One was that he smoked
marijuana three to four times a week. Another was that he had done it two days
before officers found a Glock 20 pistol in his car during a traffic stop. Based on
those facts and a few others, the district court found Cooper guilty of being a drug
user in possession of a firearm, see 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(3), and sentenced him to 37
months in prison.
Although Veasley recognized that as-applied challenges to the drug-user-in-
possession statute are available, the district court disagreed. It was not open to
dismissing the indictment even if, as Cooper argued, he posed no threat to anyone
and had last smoked marijuana two days before the traffic stop. See Fed. R. Crim.
P. 12(b)(1). In its view, once Congress decided that drug users as a “class” had no
right to possess a gun, none could possess one, regardless of the who, what, when,
where, and why of the drug use and gun possession. Even a frail and elderly
grandmother who used marijuana for a chronic medical condition—the example we
discussed in Veasley—could not be “in possession of a shotgun” to defend her home.
See Veasley, 98 F.4th at 909, 917–18 (citing this example as a potentially meritorious
as-applied challenge); United States v. Daniels, 124 F.4th 967, 977 (5th Cir. 2025)
(same).
Cooper believes that Veasley requires a different answer. He continues to
argue that prosecuting him under § 922(g)(3) violated the Second Amendment.1 Our
review is de novo. See United States v. Turner, 842 F.3d 602, 604 (8th Cir. 2016).
1 Cooper also argues that the drug-user-in-possession statute is both facially
unconstitutional and overly vague. Neither of those arguments, however, works.
See Veasley, 98 F.4th at 918; United States v. Deng, 104 F.4th 1052, 1055 (8th Cir.
2024) (rejecting vagueness challenges by “frequent[] use[rs]” of marijuana); see also
Mader v. United States, 654 F.3d 794, 800 (8th Cir. 2011) (en banc) (“[O]ne panel
is bound by the decision of a prior panel.” (citation omitted)).

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II.
In every Second Amendment case, the overarching question is whether a
limitation on the right to keep and bear arms is “consistent with this Nation’s
historical tradition of firearm regulation.” N.Y. State Rifle & Pistol Ass’n, Inc. v.
Bruen, 597 U.S. 1, 17 (2022). Key to answering that question is identifying
“analogue[s]”: Founding-era regulations that “impose[d] a comparable burden on
the right of armed self-defense” with a “comparabl[e] justifi[cation].” Id. at 29–30
(emphasis omitted); see also United States v. Rahimi, 602 U.S. 680, 692 (2024)
(explaining that the modern regulation “need not be a ‘dead ringer’ or a ‘historical
twin’” (quoting Bruen, 597 U.S. at 30)). If no comparable analogues exist because
“disarmament is a [purely] modern solution to a centuries-old problem,” Veasley, 98
F.4th at 912, or strays too far from the “how and why” of “historical regulations,”
Bruen, 597 U.S. at 29, then the Second Amendment kicks in. See U.S. Const.
amend. II (“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”).
A.
Fortunately, much of the background work on the drug-user-in-possession
statute has already been done. In Veasley, we identified two Founding-era analogues
that “make [it] constitutional in [certain] applications”: “confinement of the mentally
ill” and the “criminal prohibition on taking up arms to terrify the people.” 98 F.4th
at 912, 916.
Early in this country’s history, the “mentally ill and dangerous” ended up in
jails, makeshift asylums, and mental hospitals “with straitjackets and chains.” Id. at
915. Confinement came with a “loss of liberties,” including disarmament, “to
preserve the peace of the community.” Id. (quoting Alan Dershowitz, The Origins
of Preventive Confinement in Anglo-American Law Part II: The American
Experience, 43 U. Cin. L. Rev. 781, 787–88 (1974)). “Those who posed no danger,”

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by contrast, “stayed at home with their families,” with “their civil liberties . . .
intact.” Id. at 913.
The question is whether § 922(g)(3) is “relevantly similar” to this Founding-
era analogue. Bruen, 597 U.S. at 29. It is, but not for everyone. The “behavioral
effects” of mental illness and drug use can “overlap,” Veasley, 98 F.4th at 912, but
only the subset of the mentally ill who were dangerous faced confinement and the
loss of arms. See id. at 913 (“Life was different . . . for those who were both mentally
ill and dangerous.”). It follows that, for disarmament of drug users and addicts to be
comparably “justifi[ed],” it must be limited to those “who pose a danger to others.”
Id. at 915–16; see also Rahimi, 602 U.S. at 698 (reaching a similar conclusion about
temporary disarmament of those subject to a domestic-violence restraining order).
The analogy is complete, in other words, for someone whose “regular use[] of . . .
PCP . . . induce[s] violence,” but not for a “frail and elderly grandmother” who “uses
marijuana for a chronic medical condition.” Veasley, 98 F.4th at 909–10; see also
Rahimi, 602 U.S. at 699–700 (recognizing that the same analogue can cut different
ways in different cases). The latter would regulate “arms-bearing . . . to an extent
beyond what was done at the [F]ounding.” Rahimi, 602 U.S. at 692.
Much the same goes for Veasley’s other analogue, Terror of the People. See
98 F.4th at 916–17; Rahimi, 602 U.S. at 697–98. Initially a common-law crime and
later codified in some states, these going-armed laws required more than “mere
possession” of a weapon. Veasley, 98 F.4th at 917. As “a mechanism for punishing
those who had menaced others with firearms,” Rahimi, 602 U.S. at 697, an essential
element was “terrorizing behavior . . . accompany[ing] the possession,” Veasley, 98
F.4th at 917. See, e.g., State v. Huntly, 25 N.C. 418, 423, 3 Ired. 311, 315 (1843)
(explaining that the “essen[ce]” of the crime was “carry[ing] about . . . [a] weapon
of death . . . in such a manner as naturally will terrify and alarm[] a peaceful
people”). Punishment included imprisonment and “forfeiture of the arms” used in
the crime. Rahimi, 602 U.S. at 697 (quoting 4 William Blackstone, Commentaries
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individuals to post surety bonds to “prevent[] violence before it occurred,” but only
after providing “significant procedural protections.” Id. at 696–97.
The lesson to draw is that this analogy only works “for some drug users.”
Veasley, 98 F.4th at 917. When “a court has found that the defendant ‘represents a
credible threat,’” a ban on firearm possession “fits neatly within the tradition.”
Rahimi, 602 U.S. at 698–99 (quoting 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(8)(C)(i)). And so does one
applied to drug users who engage in “terrifying conduct.” Veasley, 98 F.4th at 917
(listing examples of how “[c]ontrolled substances can induce terrifying conduct”).
For others, like the hypothetical grandmother, threatening violence or causing terror
is “exceedingly unlikely,” so the justification for disarmament is not comparable.
Id. at 917–18; see Rahimi, 602 U.S. at 699–700 (explaining that “our Nation’s
tradition of firearm regulation distinguishes” between those who pose a threat and
those who do not); see also id. at 713 (Gorsuch, J., concurring) (highlighting that the
Court “d[id] not decide . . . whether the government may disarm a person without a
judicial finding that he poses a ‘credible threat’ to another’s physical safety”
(quoting 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(8)(C)(i))).
These two analogues also frame the relevant questions for resolving Cooper’s
as-applied challenge. Did using marijuana make Cooper act like someone who is
“both mentally ill and dangerous”? Veasley, 98 F.4th at 913. Did he “induce terror,”
id. at 918, or “pose a credible threat to the physical safety of others” with a firearm,
Rahimi, 602 U.S. at 700? Unless one of the answers is yes—or the government
identifies a new analogue we missed, but cf. United States v. Connelly, 117 F.4th
269, 274–75 (5th Cir. 2024) (coming up with a similar list)—prosecuting him under
§ 922(g)(3) would be “[in]consistent with this Nation’s historical tradition of firearm
regulation.” Bruen, 597 U.S. at 17.

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B.
Nothing in our tradition allows disarmament simply because Cooper belongs
to a category of people, drug users, that Congress has categorically deemed
dangerous. Neither the confinement of the mentally ill nor the going-armed laws
operated on an irrebuttable basis.
In fact, each had an individualized assessment built in. Confinement of the
mentally ill, for example, occurred at the “discretion” of “[j]ustices of the peace and
other officials,” but usually only after a finding that there would be some risk of
“mischief” without it. Veasley, 98 F.4th at 914 (quoting Daniel Davis, A Practical
Treatise upon the Authority and Duty of Justices of the Peace in Criminal
Prosecutions 41 (Boston, Hilliard, Gray, Little, & Wilkins 2d ed. 1828)); see Rahimi,
602 U.S. at 699 (explaining that if imprisonment is permissible, then the lesser
sanction of “temporary disarmament” is too). Similarly, going-armed laws applied
based on a “judicial determination[] [that] a particular defendant . . . had threatened
another with a weapon.” Rahimi, 602 U.S. at 699; see id. (discussing a
Massachusetts law that required “‘reasonable cause to fear’ . . . harm or breach [of]
the peace” (quoting Mass. Rev. Stat., ch. 134, §§ 1, 16 (1836))). The aim, if it is not
already clear, was to ensure that the risk supported the restrictions in each individual
case. Without making room for similar individualized determinations, § 922(g)(3)
does not “fit[] neatly within th[is] tradition,” id. at 698, because it is not “comparably
justified,” Bruen, 597 U.S. at 29. See Rahimi, 602 U.S. at 698–99 (emphasizing that
the judicial finding required by § 922(g)(8), which disarms certain domestic abusers,
“matches the surety and going armed laws”).
The only potential analogue that seemed to apply categorically was
intoxication, but disarmament was not the remedy for it. See Veasley, 98 F.4th at
912. As Veasley discussed, intoxication has been prevalent throughout our nation’s
history, but “earlier generations addressed th[at] societal problem” by restricting
when and how firearms could be used, not by taking them away. Id. at 911 (quoting

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Bruen, 597 U.S. at 26). Only later, in the mid-20th century, did legislative attention
turn to the potential danger posed by mixing guns and drugs. See id. at 912. These
analogues make clear that “disarming all drug users,” regardless of the individual
danger they pose, is not comparable to anything from around the time of the
Founding. Id.
We recognize that not every group targeted by a disarmament law is the same.
Consider felons. In United States v. Jackson, a panel of this court surveyed a
different set of Founding-era laws and concluded that they supported a categorical
ban. See 110 F.4th 1120, 1125 (8th Cir. 2024) (holding that “there is no need for
felony-by-felony litigation” under § 922(g)(1)); cf. Connelly, 117 F.4th at 278
(suggesting that there might be a tradition of disarming groups comparable to
“political traitors” and “potential insurrectionists”). But see United States v.
Jackson, 121 F.4th 656, 656–57 (8th Cir. 2024) (Stras, J., dissenting from denial of
reh’g en banc) (disagreeing). Supreme Court dicta singling out felon-dispossession
laws as “presumptively” constitutional provided additional support. Jackson, 110
F.4th at 1125, 1128–29; see Rahimi, 602 U.S. at 698 (leaving open the possibility
that some “laws banning the possession of guns by categories of persons” might be
constitutional).
We have “no such ‘assurances,’” however, about drug users and addicts.
Veasley, 98 F.4th at 909 n.2 (quoting United States v. Jackson, 69 F.4th 495, 501–
02 (8th Cir. 2023), vacated, 144 S. Ct. 2710 (2024)). Nor has our review of the
historical tradition surrounding them, to the extent one exists, turned up any bright-
line rules.2 Sometimes disarming drug users and addicts will line up with the case-
2United States v. Seay, 620 F.3d 919 (8th Cir. 2010), is of little help here
because it addressed a facial Second Amendment challenge before Bruen and
Rahimi made clear that the analysis consisted of “historical work and ‘analogical
reasoning.’” Veasley, 98 F.4th at 918 (quoting Bruen, 597 U.S. at 29–30). It did not
deal with an as-applied challenge, see Seay, 620 F.3d at 922, much less say anything
that would help us decide this one.

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by-case historical tradition, but other times it will not. See id. at 918. The district
court’s task on remand is to figure out which side of the Second Amendment line
Cooper’s case falls on.
C.
The district court, for its part, agreed with our analogy to the going-armed
laws, but dismissed much of the rest of what we said as dicta. It took issue with our
discussion of how § 922(g)(3) might be constitutional in some applications but not
in others. See id. at 916–18; cf. Rahimi, 602 U.S. at 693 (analyzing a facial challenge
using “the facts of Rahimi’s own case”). Unsurprisingly, the government has backed
away from this line of reasoning, which misunderstands how facial and as-applied
challenges work. See Veasley, 98 F.4th at 909–10 (explaining the difference).
The reason is simple: the “outer bounds” of the Second Amendment are
always “delimit[ed]” by “historical tradition.” Bruen, 597 U.S. at 19. From that
foundational principle, “the appropriate analysis” necessarily “involves considering
whether the challenged regulation . . . is ‘relevantly similar’ to laws that our tradition
is understood to permit.” Rahimi, 602 U.S. at 692 (quoting Bruen, 597 U.S. at 29).
The only thing that changes is the height of the hurdle facing the challenger. See
Veasley, 98 F.4th at 909 (explaining that the “bar goes up” in a facial challenge).
The underlying textual and historical analysis remain the same. See id. at 910
(explaining that “the same text-and-historical-understanding framework” applies
either way); Rahimi, 602 U.S. at 690 (rejecting a facial challenge because, “[a]s
applied to the facts of th[at] case, Section 922(g)(8) fits comfortably within th[e]
[historical] tradition”); see also Citizens United v. Fed. Election Comm’n, 558 U.S.
310, 330–31 (2010).
Look at it this way. See Bruen, 597 U.S. at 28–30 (explaining how to do
“analogical reasoning under the Second Amendment”). It is true that a facial
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[§ 922(g)(3)] would be valid,” while all that matters for Cooper’s as-applied
challenge is how the statute affected him. Veasley, 98 F.4th at 909. Either way,
however, the question we ask is the same: is “the regulation . . . consistent with this
Nation’s historical tradition of firearm regulation”? Bruen, 597 U.S. at 17; see also
Jackson, 110 F.4th at 1125–29 (relying on the same history to resolve both types of
challenges). And in both instances, the analogies we identified in Veasley will
provide the answer. See Seminole Tribe of Fla. v. Florida, 517 U.S. 44, 67 (1996)
(“When an opinion issues for the Court, it is not only the result but also those
portions of the opinion necessary to that result by which we are bound.”).
D.
Although both sides invite us to resolve Cooper’s as-applied challenge, the
district court is in the best position to take the first crack at it. The factual record is
thin, given that the case proceeded to a bench trial on stipulated facts, so the parties
may want to supplement the record with other evidence. In the meantime, we will
tie up a loose end to save everyone time on remand.
The government suggests in its briefing that Cooper is too dangerous to have
a gun because he “possessed [one] for protection after [a] recent shooting at his
residence.” (Emphasis added). We disagree for two reasons. First, the parties only
stipulated that “officers were dispatched to [his] residence . . . in reference to an
individual who had been shot,” not a shooting that happened there. (Emphasis
added). And second, “individual self-defense is ‘the central component’ of the
Second Amendment right,” not an exception to it.3 McDonald v. City of Chicago,
3 Marijuana use by itself is not an exception either, even if possessing it breaks
federal law. 21 U.S.C. §§ 802(6), 812(c) sched. I(c)(10), 844(a); see Worth v.
Jacobson, 108 F.4th 677, 692 (8th Cir. 2024) (“[A] claim that a group is
‘irresponsible’ or ‘dangerous’ does not remove them from the definition of the
people.”); see also Rahimi, 602 U.S. at 701 (“reject[ing] the Government’s

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561 U.S. 742, 767 (2010) (quoting District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570, 599
(2008)); see Heller, 554 U.S. at 628 (emphasizing that “the home [is] where the need
for defense of self, family, and property is most acute”).
III.
We accordingly vacate the district court’s judgment and remand for a
reexamination of Cooper’s motion to dismiss the indictment.
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contention that Rahimi may be disarmed simply because he is not ‘responsible’”).
As the analogues show, it takes something more. See Veasley, 98 F.4th at 911–12
(describing how “[c]annabis was in use” before the Founding, but there is no
evidence that use alone led to disarmament).

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