CourtListener 10733905•Texas Health and Human Services Commission v. Amy Bazan A/K/A Amy Fairbank
Texas Health and Human Services Commission v. Amy Bazan A/K/A Amy Fairbank
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15-25-00130-CV
FIFTEENTH COURT OF APPEALS
AUSTIN, TEXAS
11/5/2025 3:46 PM
CAUSE NO. 15-25-00130-CV CHRISTOPHER A. PRINE
CLERK
FILED IN
15th COURT OF APPEALS
FIFTEENTH COURT OF APPEALS AUSTIN, TEXAS
11/5/2025 4:40:50 PM
CHRISTOPHER A. PRINE
Clerk
TEXAS HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES COMMISSION,
Appellant,
v.
AMY BAZAN a/k/a AMY FAIRBANK,
Appellee.
On Appeal from the 353rd Judicial District Court of Travis County, Texas
No. D-1-GN-22-000773
APPELLEE AMY BAZAN a/k/a AMY FAIRBANK’S REPLY BRIEF AND
REQUEST FOR ORAL ARGUMENT
Ladd Law Firm, P.L.L.C.
Norman R. Ladd
State Bar No. 24041285
Prema Autry
Texas State Bar No. 24082357
223 S. Bonner Ave.
Tyler, Texas 75702
T: (903) 705-7211
F: (903) 705-7221
nladd@laddtxlaw.com
pautry@laddtxlaw.com
ATTORNEYS FOR APPELLEE
Appellee’s Reply Brief
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Table of Contents
Table of Contents ........................................................................................... 2
Index of Authorities ........................................................................................ 3
Statement Regarding Oral Argument ............................................................ 4
Statement of Facts .......................................................................................... 4
Summary of the Argument.............................................................................. 7
Standard of Review ........................................................................................ 9
Appellee’s Reply Argument .......................................................................... 10
Conclusion & Prayer ...................................................................................... 17
Certificate of Service ..................................................................................... 19
Appellee’s Reply Brief
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INDEX OF AUTHORITY
Case
Tex. Health Facilities Comm’n v. Charter Med,-Dallas, Inc.,
665 S.W.2d 446, 450 (1984) ......................................................................... 10
Dyer v. Tex. Comm’n on Envtl. Quality, 646 S.W.3d at 514 ....................... 10
40 Texas Admin. Code §707.455(b)(3) ....................................................... 17
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Statement Regarding Oral Argument
Appellee, Amy Fairbank, requests oral argument in this appeal. Fairbank
believes that in order for her to exercise her full due process rights, she should be
granted the opportunity for oral argument. There is also a fundamental
disagreement as to whether the SOAH court’s decision was reasonably supported
by substantial evidence that would be better remedied with oral argument.
Statement of Facts
On July 14, 2017, Amy Bazan (AKA Fairbank), received a Temporary
Restraining Order (TRO) against Rafael Bazan. The TRO also came with an Order
Setting Hearing for Temporary Orders in their divorce proceedings. On July 26,
2017, in the midst of the contentious divorce between Amy Fairbank and Rafael
Bazan, her now ex-husband, an intake was called into the DFPS hotline. The intake
alleged that Fairbank was neglectful in her supervision of her children, Child 1 and
Child 2. It also alleged that she physically abused the children. The intake call was
made just a day prior to when Rafael Bazan was ordered to turn over financial
details to the court so that it could determine the amount of child support he would
be required to pay. Rafael Bazan and Fairbank entered into a Rule 11 Agreement
on August 22, 2017.
The intake was assigned to Andrew Chesnut, an investigator in the Child
Protective Services unit of DFPS. During the months of July and August 2017, Mr.
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Chesnut conducted interviews and gathered documents and pictures. On September
6, 2017, Fairbank was notified that a finding of reason to believe for Neglectful
Supervision and Physical Abuse had been made against her and on September 13,
2018, she was notified of her right to a due process hearing at the State Office of
Administrative Hearings. Fairbank timely filed her due process request with SOAH
on September 25, 2018.
At trial, HHSC offered testimony from Andrew Chesnut, the DFPS
investigator, the Investigation Report, which is merely a summary, one picture, that
of a fly swatter, the Interim Report of the Amicus Attorney, a Rule 11 Agreement,
and an offense report from the Smith County Sheriff’s Office. 1 HHSC did not offer
any pictures or medical documentation relating to physical injuries.
The investigation report included brief summaries of the forensic interviews
that were conducted with Child 1 and Child 2. Child 1 makes no mention of being
disciplined or spanked with a fly swatter.2 Child 2, however, does tell the forensic
interviewer that Plaintiff spanked Child 1 with the swatter.3 Both children were
interviewed by their amicus attorney prior to their forensic interviews.
1
Report 17-17983 from the Smith County Sheriff’s Office was offered, but not admitted at the
trial court.
2
Administrative Record, Entry 2, Pg. 000059 - 000060
3
Administrative Record, Entry 2, Pg. 000060
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Child 1 told the amicus about the fly swatter incident and also mentioned
that Rafael Bazan talked about her mother, Fairbank, and about the divorce
proceedings.4 Child 2 mentioned being spanked by her mom, but there was no
mention of a fly swatter.5 Child 1 also stated that her father Rafael Bazan spoke to
her about the case and about her mom. 6 Neither child made mention of Child 1
having received medical care for any alleged injury nor was there mention of law
enforcement being called as a result of the alleged spanking.
When the amicus attorney interviewed Rafael Bazan, he mentions an
incident that was alleged to have occurred in April of 2017. He said that Fairbank
came outside upset and told him that she had made Child 1 bleed. 7 He did not call
law enforcement as a result of this allegedly occurring, nor did he seek medical
treatment for the child. Mr. Bazan had to be admonished by the amicus attorney
and the judge in his divorce case because he continually discussed the case and any
actions of Ms. Fairbank with the children.
In her interview with the amicus attorney, Fairbank mentioned the fly
swatter incident and that the fly swatter was broken and that it had cut the child.
There was no mention of bleeding or bruising. 8
4
Administrative Record, Entry 2, Pg. 000210 - 000212
5
Administrative Record, Entry 2, Pg. 000212 - 000214
6
Administrative Record, Entry 2, Pg. 000212 - 000214
7
Administrative Record, Entry 2, Pg. 000214 - 000216
8
Administrative Record, Entry 2, Pg. 000216 - 000219
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Investigator Andrew Chesnut met with the children on July 27, 2017, in a
face-to-face meeting. He observed both children to be free from any bruises or
marks. He did not interview either child as they were already scheduled for their
forensic interviews. Mr. Chesnut spoke with Rafael Bazan over the phone twice. In
his first conversation he makes no mention of Fairbank using a fly swatter on Child
1. During the second phone call, Mr. Bazan denied having any pictures of the
alleged injury caused by Fairbank.9 In her one face-to-face interview with Andrew
Chesnut, Ms. Fairbank admits to using the fly swatter, but stated that it only caused
a partial skin break. Again, there is no mention of bleeding or bruising.
During her testimony before the trial court, Fairbank asserted that spanking
her biological children, even with the fly swatter, was reasonable discipline and
that reasonable discipline was legal and allowed in the State of Texas. She believed
that the discipline was reasonable as there were only minor temporary marks.
When asked about the marks at trial, Fairbank stated that they were more of a
scratch, indicating that any marks on Child 1 were transient in nature.
Summary of the Argument
This appeal involves a suit for judicial review. The SOAH ALJ’s findings of
abuse were not supported by substantial evidence—a standard which the district
court properly applied. There is not substantial evidence in the record that Fairbank
9
Administrative Record, Entry 2, Pg. 000199
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abused her child and therefore, her name should be removed from the Child Abuse
and Neglect Central Registry, and the decision of the District Court to reverse the
trial court should stand.
The trial court erred in its decision and order when finding that HHSC had
met their burden and proven by a preponderance of credible evidence that
Fairbank had physically abused Child 1. For the decision of the trial court to be
maintained, there must be substantial evidence in the record that Ms. Fairbank
abused her child. However, it is Fairbank’s assertion that the burden was not met
and therefore the decision of the lower court should have been reversed thereby
overturning the physical abuse finding. The District Court agreed with Fairbank
and reversed the trial court.
Without pictures or medical documentation, HHSC did prove that the
injuries that were alleged to have been sustained by Child 1 were anything but
transient. Even if there was a partial skin break that bled, there was no evidence
presented to show that there was a large amount of blood loss and/or that the
bleeding lasted for a lengthy period of time. Ms. Fairbank testified that the injury
was only a partial skin break that was more like a small cut. All of this, with the
fact that there was a material dispute as to the degree of the injuries goes to show
that there was not a preponderance of credible evidence.
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The evidence presented at the SOAH trial did not prove that Plaintiff
Fairbank physically abused Child 1 under the definition given in the code. While
Ms. Fairbank admitted to spanking her child, she did so in a manner that meets the
reasonable discipline standard. The trial court put their focus on the instrument, a
small flexible plastic fly swatter, when their focus should have been on the result
of the spanking.
The upheld finding of physical abuse was made by the trial court even
though it was not reasonably supported by substantial evidence when considering
the reliable and probative evidence presented in the record. The case was properly
reversed. The district court did not ignore substantial evidence when found that
there was no substantial evidence in the record to support the finding of physical
abuse against Ms. Fairbank. The district court did not improperly usurp the
agency’s authority, nor did it substitute its own judgment for that of the agency.
The district court’s decision should be affirmed.
Standard of Review
While the law requires that the substantial evidence rule be used in this case
and that a court may not substitute its judgment for that of the agency as to the
weight of the evidence on questions committed to agency discretion, it can and
shall reverse or remand the case for further proceedings if substantial rights of the
appellant have been prejudiced because the administrative findings, inferences,
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conclusions, or decisions are not reasonably supported by substantial evidence in
view of the reliable and probative evidence in the record as a whole. Tex. Health
Facilities Comm’n v. Charter Med,-Dallas, Inc., 665 S.W.2d 446, 450 (1984).
Here, the reliable and probative evidence in the record shows that Plaintiff
Fairbank did not physically abuse her child.
Reasonable minds would not have reached the same conclusion that the trial
court did in this case. It is only when “reasonable minds could have reached the
same conclusion that the agency must have reached” that the court must uphold the
agency’s ultimate decision. Dyer v. Tex. Comm’n on Envtl. Quality, 646 S.W.3d at
514 (quoting Tex. Health Facilities Comm’n v. Charter Med.-Dall., Inc., 665 S.W.
2d 446, 453 (Tex. 1984)). In this case, reasonable minds would have disagreed,
and therefore the district court’s decision to reverse the SOAH court must be
affirmed.
Appellee’s Reply Argument
I. The Decision and Order on the abuse issues does NOT further the goals
of the Texas Family Code and the state’s interest in protecting
children from physical abuse.
It can be agreed that the purpose of Chapter 261 of the Texas Family Code is
to protect children. One of the ways this can be ensured is by conducting prompt
and thorough investigations into suspected abuse or neglect reports when they are
made. The report in this case was not made promptly, as the incident was alleged
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to have occurred in April of 2017, with the intake being made to the Abuse/Neglect
Hotline in July of 2017. 10 Nor were the allegations made during the intake
investigated thoroughly.
The months between when Child 1 was disciplined in a reasonable manner
by Ms. Fairbank and when the intake was made, proved that there was not a
prompt and immediate call to the abuse/neglect hotline. The intake was not made
until Fairbank, and her now ex-husband, Rafael Bazan were in the midst of a
contentious divorce. Mr. Bazan weaponized DFPS against Ms. Fairbank in order to
obtain custody of their two daughters. By ruling in favor of HHSC in this case, the
trial court ignored the central purpose of Chapter 261 of the Texas Family Code.
The trial court ignored the fact that the intake call was made months later, that
there were no calls to law enforcement regarding the incident, no medical records,
and no pictures of the scratch.
The definition of “abuse” in Texas Family Code Section 261.001(1)(c)
included a reasonable discipline component, which the trial court ignored.
Reasonable discipline is defined in Texas Administrative Code Section 707.455 as
discipline that is reasonable in manner and moderate in degree, does not constitute
cruelty, reckless behavior, or grossly negligent behavior; and is administered for
purposes of restraining or correcting the child. The discipline shall not include an
10
Administrative Record, Entry 2, Pg. 000214 - 000216
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act that is likely to cause or causes an injury more serious than transient pain or
minor temporary marks.
There is nothing in the record to prove that any injuries, marks, bruises, or
scratches were anything other than minor temporary marks. No one asked the child
whether she felt pain when spanked with the fly swatter. Without anyone having
asked the child if she felt pain and how long it lasted, if she had, there is no proof
that there was anything other than transient pain. The Defendant also failed to
provide any pictures of scratch. There was not one piece of evidence to show that
Plaintiff Fairbank’s spanking of her child was anything other than reasonable
discipline. Had it been more serious than transient pain or minor temporary marks,
surely Mr. Bazan would have taken his child to receive medical treatment and not
wait until months after the spanking to only bring it up in the divorce proceedings.
There was no substantial evidence to prove physical abuse, and therefore the ruling
should have been reversed, as was done at the district court.
II. The Decision and Order on the abuse issue is NOT supported by
substantial evidence.
At trial, the Defendant offered testimony from Andrew Chesnut, in which he
testified that he believed the children were credible and that they had made
consistent statements. He said this while also acknowledging that the children had
been talked to about the case by their father, and that this had been done to the
extent that it led to him being admonished for it. Mr. Chesnut testified and
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confirmed that the types of actions taken by Rafael Bazan during the pendency of
the divorce are not allowed and that they lead to “coaching.” When there is even a
hint of coaching in a situation such as a divorce, it lends less credibility and
reliability to the statements given by the children.
The statements given by the children were also not consistent. When looking
at the investigation report, which only included brief summaries of the forensic
interviews that were conducted with Child 1 and Child 2, one can see how the
statements are not consistent. For instance, Child 1 makes no mention of being
disciplined or spanked with a fly swatter. 11 Child 2, however, tells the forensic
interviewer that Fairbank spanked Child 1 with the swatter. 12
The children’s interviews with the amicus attorney are also not consistent
with the facts as HHSC wants this Court to believe. When interviewed by the
amicus attorney, Child 2 talked about the fly swatter incident and also mentioned
that Rafael Bazan talked about her mother, Fairbank, and about the divorce
proceedings.13 Child 1 mentioned being spanked by her mom, but there was no
mention of a fly swatter.14 Child 1 also stated that her father Rafael Bazan spoke to
her about the case and about her mom.15Neither child made mention of Child 1
11
Administrative Record, Entry 2, Pg. 000059 - 000060
12
Administrative Record, Entry 2, Pg. 000060
13
Administrative Record, Entry 2, Pg. 000210 - 000212
14
Administrative Record, Entry 2, Pg. 000212 - 000214
15
Administrative Record, Entry 2, Pg. 000212 - 000214
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having received medical care for any alleged injury nor was there mention of law
enforcement being called as a result of the alleged spanking. As you can see, the
children are only consistent when it comes to their father having spoken to them
about the divorce case and negatively about their mother.
Because the statements given by the children to both the forensic interviewer
and the amicus attorney are not consistent, they cannot be relied upon. Therefore,
they cannot be used to show that HHSC had a preponderance of credible evidence
at the trial court level and substantial evidence at the appellate level. One must
now look at the statements given by Fairbank and Rafael Bazan.
Prior to being interviewed by Andrew Chesnut, Mr. Bazan sat down with the
amicus attorney in his divorce case. He mentions an incident that was alleged to
have occurred in April of 2017. He said that Fairbank came outside upset and told
him that she had made Child 1 bleed.16 He did not call law enforcement as a result
of this allegedly occurring, nor did he seek medical treatment for the child. Mr.
Bazan had to be admonished by the amicus attorney and the judge in his divorce
case because he continually discussed the case and any actions of Ms. Fairbank
with the children.
Mr. Chesnut spoke with Rafael Bazan over the phone twice and in his first
conversation he makes no mention of Fairbank using a fly swatter on Child 1.
16
Administrative Record, Entry 2, Pg. 000214 - 000216
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During the second phone call, Mr. Bazan denied having any pictures of the alleged
injury caused by Fairbank.17 Again, just as with the interview with the amicus,
there is not mention of Rafael Bazan being so concerned with Child 1’s injuries
that he sought or provided medical attention for her, nor did he call law
enforcement to have Fairbank arrested and charged with Injury to a Child. Mr.
Bazan took no action to demonstrate to anyone that Ms. Fairbank did anything
more substantial and serious than reasonable discipline.
Next, we turn to the statements given by Fairbank. When interviewed by the
amicus attorney, Ms. Fairbank mentions the fly swatter incident and that the fly
swatter was broken and that it had cut the child. There was no mention of bleeding
or bruising. 18 Fairbank was also interviewed by Andrew Chesnut, and she admits
to using the fly swatter, but that it only caused a partial skin break. Again, there is
no mention of bleeding or bruising. When Mr. Chesnut interviewed Ms. Fairbank’s
parents, they noted no concerns with how she disciplined the children, nor had they
witnessed anything that could be described as physically abusing either child.
During her testimony before the trial court, Ms. Fairbank asserted that
spanking her biological children, even with the fly swatter, was reasonable
discipline and that reasonable discipline was legal and allowed in Texas under the
17
Administrative Record, Entry 2, Pg. 000199
18
Administrative Record, Entry 2, Pg. 000216 - 000219
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Texas Family Code’s definition of physical abuse. She believed that the discipline
was reasonable as there were only minor temporary marks. When asked about the
marks at trial, Fairbank stated that they were more of a scratch, indicating that any
marks on Child 1 were transient in nature.
HHSC did not offer testimony or other evidence of a medical nature. They
did not call any witnesses to testify to any marks, cuts, bruises or scratches that
Child 1 obtained as a result of being spanked that lasted longer than a few days.
The Defendant did not present any visual evidence of the injuries that Child 1 was
said to have obtained. Rafael Bazan did not take any pictures and when Mr.
Chesnut met with the children, they were both free from any marks or bruises.
When taken into consideration with the fact that the incident was alleged to have
occurred in April or May of 2017 and was not mentioned or reported until July of
2017, it is more likely that any injury that may have occurred was not substantial
and did not warrant medical treatment as a result. It further proves that any marks
were only transient in nature.
"Reasonable discipline" means discipline that is reasonable in
manner and moderate in degree; does not constitute cruelty, reckless
behavior, or grossly negligent behavior; and is administered for
purposes of restraining or correcting the child. It shall not include an
act that is likely to cause or causes injury more serious than transient
pain or minor temporary marks. The age, size, and condition of the
child; the location of the injury; and the frequency or recurrence of
injuries shall be considered when determining whether the discipline
is reasonable and moderate.
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40 Texas Admin. Code §707.455(b)(3)
The Texas Administrative Code, in §707.455 defines reasonable discipline
and states that ‘reasonable discipline can be administered for the purposes of
correcting the behavior of the child’, which is what Fairbank testified to. She stated
that Child 1 had flooded the bathroom and as a result, she was disciplined. The
discipline must not be cruel, reckless, or grossly negligent. There was no evidence
to state that the spanking was cruel, reckless, or grossly negligent. Reasonable
discipline must also not cause or be likely to cause anything more serious than
transient pain or minor temporary marks. The defendant did not put forth any
evidence to support their assumption that the injuries were more serious than minor
temporary marks or that the child felt more than transient pain.
There was not a substantial amount of evidence presented by HHSC when
considering the reliable and probative evidence in the record. Nor did the
Commission did not meet their burden of a preponderance of credible evidence at
the trial court and therefore this case should be reversed.
Conclusion & Prayer
Because HHSC did not present a preponderance of credible evidence at the
trial court and because there is not substantial evidence of physical abuse when
considering the reliable and probative evidence in the record, this case was
properly reversed by the district court, and their decision should stand. Without
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any evidence to show that spanking her biological child was anything other than
reasonable, the trial court should have evaluated the evidence in the light most
favorable to Fairbank, which would have led to the physical abuse finding to be
overturned, which is exactly what the district court ruled. Accordingly, Appellee
Fairbank respectfully request the Court to affirm the decision of the district court.
Respectfully submitted,
LADD LAW FIRM, P.L.L.C.
______________________
Norman R. Ladd
State Bar No. 24041285
Prema Autry
State Bar No. 24082357
223 S. Bonner Ave.
Tyler, Texas 75702
T: (903) 705-7211
F: (903) 705-7221
nladd@laddtxlaw.com
pautry@laddtxlaw.com
ATTORNEYS FOR PLAINTIFF
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Certificate of Service
I certify that a true and correct copy of this Appellee’s Reply Brief was filed
electronically and was served on counsel for Appellant on November 5, 2025,
pursuant with Texas Rule of Appellate Procedure 9.4(i)(2)(B), this brief contains
3,946 words, excluding the portions of the brief exempted by Rule 9.4(i)(1).
Ted Ross E-Service
State Bar Number: 24008890
Administrative Law Division
P. O. Box 12548
Austin, Texas 78711-2548
T: (512) 475-4191
F: (512) 320-0167
ted.ross@oag.texas.gov
_______________________
Prema Autry
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