PUBLISH
UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
FOR THE TENTH CIRCUIT
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In re: OFFICE OF THE UTAH
ATTORNEY GENERAL; SEAN REYES,
Petitioners.
No. 22-4057
(D.C. No. 2:18-CV-00341-JNP-DAO)
(D. Utah)
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ORDER
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Before HARTZ, TYMKOVICH, and PHILLIPS, Circuit Judges.
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PER CURIAM.
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This case involves the proper standard for permitting the deposition of a
high-ranking public official. In the underlying wrongful termination case brought by
Paul Amann against the Utah Attorney General’s Office (UAGO), the district court has
ordered the deposition of Attorney General Sean Reyes. Mr. Reyes and the UAGO
(collectively, petitioners) have filed a petition for writ of mandamus seeking an order
directing the district court to vacate its order compelling the deposition. Having reviewed
the district court’s order and the briefing on the petition, we conclude that petitioners
have no other adequate means to attain this relief, their right to the issuance of the writ is
clear and indisputable, and the issuance of the writ is appropriate under the
circumstances. Accordingly, exercising our jurisdiction under the All Writs Act,
28 U.S.C. § 1651(a), we grant the petition.
FILED
United States Court of Appeals
Tenth Circuit
December 1, 2022
Christopher M. Wolpert
Clerk of Court
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I. Background
A. Facts
In December 2016, Plaintiff Paul Amann was fired from his job as an Assistant
Attorney General, allegedly for violations of office policy. He brought a whistleblower
claim in federal district court asserting that he was actually fired for reporting misconduct
by his supervisor and a co-worker. The defendants included the UAGO and Mr. Reyes in
his personal and official capacities.
Mr. Amann’s counsel has already taken the depositions of 11 witnesses, including
former Civil Chief Deputy Bridget Romano and former Solicitor General Tyler Green.
He also has conducted a Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 30(b)(6)1 deposition of the
UAGO and propounded 75 written discovery requests.
The discovery revealed that Ms. Romano and Mr. Green were the key decision
makers concerning Mr. Amann’s conduct and the status of his employment. Ms. Romano
placed Mr. Amann on administrative leave and later recommended termination, although
she conceded that she provided status updates to Mr. Reyes during the process.
Mr. Green was designated by Mr. Reyes to make the final decision about the termination
of Mr. Amann’s employment, partly because Mr. Green had no prior relationship with
Mr. Amann. Mr. Green testified that he never talked to Mr. Reyes about Mr. Amann and
that he made his own independent decision concerning termination.
1 Rule 30(b)(6) provides that “a party may name as the deponent . . . a
governmental agency . . . and must describe with reasonable particularity the matters for
examination.” The named organization then must designate a witness to testify on the
organization’s behalf concerning those matters.
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There was also evidence that shortly after Mr. Reyes was appointed in 2013,
Mr. Amann’s wife raised concerns of employment fraud at UAGO, and that in response
Mr. Reyes wrote to his campaign manager that the Amanns “may be more of a liability
than help. I cannot investigate every person these guys have a beef with.” Amann Resp.
to Pet. at 12 (internal quotation marks omitted). On the day before Ms. Romano issued a
notice of intent to terminate Mr. Amann’s employment, Mr. Reyes sent his campaign
manager a text stating, “Amann reneged on our deal so he wants to burn us to the
ground.” Dist. Ct. Resp. at 6 (internal quotation marks omitted).
Mr. Amann asserts that Mr. Reyes “heavily influenced” the decisions concerning
Mr. Amann’s employment. Amann Resp. to Pet. at 18 (internal quotation marks
omitted). He bases this assertion on the following facts about Mr. Reyes: he was hostile
to Mr. Amann’s claims of misconduct within the UAGO; he was “kept in the loop” about
the investigation of Mr. Amann and directed “his subordinates about how to handle
situations involving Amann”; he included the name “Amann” on a to-do list he sent to his
personal email address; he was copied on letters sent to Mr. Amann “regarding his
discipline”; and he “hand-picked” the person who made the ultimate decision regarding
termination. Id. (internal quotation marks omitted).
B. District Court’s Orders
Before Ms. Romano and Mr. Green were deposed, Mr. Amann moved to compel
Mr. Reyes’s deposition on the ground that Mr. Reyes was involved in the investigation
and decision to terminate Mr. Amann’s employment. In addressing the motion, the
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magistrate judge applied a standard that has been used in several district court decisions
in this circuit. The magistrate judge explained:
[D]istrict courts in this circuit have required parties seeking to depose
high-ranking government officials to “demonstrate whether (1) the official
has first-hand knowledge related to the claim being litigated[,] (2) the
testimony will likely lead to the discovery of admissible evidence, (3) the
deposition is essential to the party’s case, and (4) the information cannot be
obtained from an alternative source or via less burdensome means.”
Pet., Attach. 1 at 2 (Magistrate Judge’s Order) (quoting White v. City & Cnty. of Denver,
No. 13-cv-01761, 2014 WL 3373368, at *2 (D. Colo. July 10, 2014)). The magistrate
judge denied the motion because Mr. Amann had not shown that Mr. Reyes’s deposition
was “essential” to his case. Id. In particular, the magistrate judge noted there was no
evidence of Mr. Reyes’s direct involvement in the termination. The magistrate further
held that the reasons for Mr. Amann’s termination could be obtained from alternative
sources, including the depositions of Mr. Green and Ms. Romano.
Mr. Amann objected to the magistrate judge’s ruling, and the district court
sustained the objection. The district court concluded the magistrate judge identified the
proper test, but misapplied it to the facts of the case. The district court also opined the
evidence indicated Mr. Reyes had personal knowledge of Mr. Amann’s situation, and
held:
This evidence not only suggests that Reyes has first-hand knowledge
related to Amann’s claims, but also raises the reasonable inference that
Reyes had an interest in how Amann’s situation was resolved. Although
Reyes may not have been the ultimate decisionmaker who signed Amann’s
termination letter, this evidence raises the reasonable inference that Reyes
was involved in [UAGO’s] decision to terminate Amann. At [a] minimum,
it appears that Reyes played a role in selecting Green to review Amann’s
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response to the Notice of Intent to Terminate Employment, and that the
Amann situation caused Reyes stress.
Id., Attach. 2 at 8 (Dist. Ct. Order Jan. 25, 2022) (internal quotation marks and citations
omitted).
Petitioners then filed a motion for reconsideration, which the district court denied.
In denying the motion, however, the district court altered its reasoning. The district court
found “that the ‘exceptional’ or ‘extraordinary’ circumstances test advocated by
Defendants should not be applied” in this case, for two reasons. Id., Attach. 3 at 6
(Dist. Ct. Order May 13, 2022). First, the district court noted that cases “involv[ing]
high-ranking federal officials” may implicate “legitimate separation-of-powers
concerns,” id. at 5, which are not present in this case. Second, the district court posited
that “testimony from a high-ranking official who, presumably in good faith, has been
sued in his or her personal capacity is likely to be central to the case, particularly when
the case involves issues of credibility.” Id. at 6.
The district court also disagreed with the requirement Defendants asserted had
been adopted by other courts—that a plaintiff must show the high-ranking official has
information that is “absolutely needed” for the party’s case before the court can order a
deposition. Id. at 7 (internal quotation marks omitted). “[I]t is difficult, if not
impossible,” the district court explained, “to determine whether a high-ranking official
has information that is ‘absolutely needed’ and that cannot be obtained from any other
source until the party has deposed the official and explored the extent of the official’s
knowledge.” Id. The district court concluded that this is especially true in a
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whistleblower case, where “pretext and credibility are central to resolution of the case.”
Id. at 8.
The district court also concluded that even if it applied “the ‘exceptional’ or
‘extraordinary’ circumstances test,” it would still result in Mr. Reyes having to sit for the
deposition. Id. at 9. The district court concluded that “Reyes’s deposition is essential to
Amann’s case” because it “is the only way for Amann to obtain a complete picture of the
circumstances surrounding the investigation into his conduct and his ultimate
termination.” Id. at 11 (internal quotation marks and brackets omitted).
In addition, the district court held that the information could not be obtained from
an alternative source or less burdensome means. In particular, the district court held that
“written questions and responses are not an adequate alternative” because: (1) they “do
not enable a party to ask follow-up or clarification questions if the deponent’s response is
evasive or unclear”; (2) they “do not permit a party to pursue new or unanticipated lines
of questioning if the deponent provides unexpected revelations”; and (3) credibility is
central in a whistleblower case, and “written responses that are carefully crafted and
edited by attorneys are no substitute for the witness’s spontaneous answers during a live
deposition.” Id. at 12-13.
The petitioners then filed their petition for writ of mandamus in this court. The
deposition of Mr. Reyes has since been stayed by the district court pending the resolution
of the mandamus petition.
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II. Discussion
Petitioners contend the district court abused its discretion in ordering the
deposition of Mr. Reyes. They argue: (1) the district court eschewed the “extraordinary
circumstances” test applied in other circuits, and fashioned a new standard applicable to
whistleblower cases that improperly favors depositions of high-ranking officials in such
cases; and (2) the district court’s reasons for rejecting less burdensome alternatives to a
deposition would apply in virtually every case.
A. Mandamus Standard
“The issuance of the writ [of mandamus] rests within the court’s discretion.” In re
Qwest Commc’ns Int’l, Inc., 450 F.3d 1179, 1184 (10th Cir. 2006). To issue a writ of
mandamus, three conditions must be met: (1) the petitioner “must have no other
adequate means to attain the relief he desires”; (2) “the petitioner must demonstrate that
his right to the writ is clear and indisputable”; and (3) “the issuing court, in the exercise
of its discretion, must be satisfied that the writ is appropriate under the circumstances.”
In re Cooper Tire & Rubber Co., 568 F.3d 1180, 1187 (10th Cir. 2009) (internal
quotation marks omitted). “The writ of mandamus issues only in exceptional
circumstances to correct a clear abuse of discretion, an abdication of the judicial function,
or the usurpation of judicial power.” United States v. Copar Pumice Co., 714 F.3d 1197,
1210 (10th Cir. 2013) (internal quotation marks omitted).
For guidance in determining whether the writ may issue, we have identified five
“nonconclusive guidelines.” United States v. McVeigh, 119 F.3d 806, 810
(10th Cir. 1997) (internal quotation marks omitted). These guidelines are:
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(1) whether the party has alternative means to secure relief; (2) whether the
party will be damaged in a way not correctable on appeal; (3) whether the
district court’s order constitutes an abuse of discretion; (4) whether the
order represents an often repeated error and manifests a persistent disregard
of federal rules; and (5) whether the order raises new and important
problems or issues of law of the first impression.
In re Qwest Commc’ns, 450 F.3d at 1184 (internal quotation marks omitted).
B. Other Adequate Means and Whether a Writ Is Appropriate Under the
Circumstances
As to the first and third conditions, neither Mr. Amann nor the district court have
presented any meaningful argument.2 Petitioners persuasively argue that mandamus is
Mr. Reyes’s only adequate means of obtaining relief. An interlocutory appeal would not
be permitted under these circumstances, see 28 U.S.C. § 1292, and we have held that
discovery orders are generally not appealable under the collateral order doctrine, SEC v.
Merrill Scott & Assocs., 600 F.3d 1262, 1270 (10th Cir. 2010). As the Ninth Circuit
noted in a similar case, “[o]n the adequacy of other relief, courts have routinely found
that, in cases involving high-level government officials, there are no other means of relief
beyond mandamus because to disobey the subpoena, face contempt charges, and then
appeal would not be appropriate for a high-ranking government official.” In re U.S.
Dep’t of Educ., 25 F.4th 692, 705 (9th Cir. 2022). The same reasoning applies here.
As for whether a writ of mandamus is appropriate under the circumstances,
petitioners note this is a matter of first impression in this circuit on which guidance is
urgently needed. Neither Mr. Amann nor the district court have argued otherwise.
2 At our invitation, the district court filed a response to the petition, which we have
carefully considered together with Mr. Amann’s response.
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C. Whether Petitioners’ Right to the Writ Is Clear and Indisputable
Nearly every circuit to have addressed the question presented by UAGO’s petition
has adopted some form of an “extraordinary circumstances” test, in which parties must
meet a high bar in order to depose high-ranking officials. Because the Tenth Circuit has
not addressed the question, however, the district court applied a lower standard of its own
making that it deemed more appropriate in whistleblower cases where a high-ranking
state official is named as an individual defendant. We hold that under the circumstances,
petitioners’ right to the writ is clear and indisputable.
1. The Extraordinary Circumstances Test
Other circuits have concluded that high-ranking executive officials should not,
absent extraordinary circumstances, be called to testify or be deposed concerning issues
relating to their official duties. E.g., Bogan v. City of Boston, 489 F.3d 417, 423
(1st Cir. 2007) (listing cases). The extraordinary circumstances rule “is based on the
notion that high ranking government officials have greater duties and time constraints
than other witnesses and that, without appropriate limitations, such officials will spend an
inordinate amount of time tending to pending litigation.” Id. (brackets and internal
quotation marks omitted).
The extraordinary circumstances test has its genesis in United States v. Morgan,
313 U.S. 409, 421-22 (1941), which involved a deposition of the United States Secretary
of Agriculture. Although the deposition had long since occurred by the time the case
arrived at the Supreme Court, the Court discouraged depositions of high-ranking officials
concerning the reasons for their official actions. See id. at 422. The Morgan decision is
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routinely cited in decisions employing the extraordinary circumstances test. E.g., Bogan,
489 F.3d at 423 (in § 1983 action, explaining that, relying on Morgan, “courts have
concluded that top executive department officials should not, absent extraordinary
circumstances, be called to testify or deposed regarding their reasons for taking official
action”); Johnson v. Att’y Gen. of N.J., No. 12-4850, 2015 WL 4915611, at *2
(D.N.J. Aug. 18, 2015) (in § 1983 action, citing Morgan for the principle that “current
high-ranking government officials should not be subject to the taking of depositions
absent extraordinary circumstances” (internal quotation marks omitted)).
The circuits vary on what constitutes extraordinary circumstances, but nearly all of
them agree that a party must show at a minimum that the information sought is not
obtainable from another source. See Bogan, 489 F.3d at 423 (depositions “permitted only
where it is shown that other persons cannot provide the necessary information”);
In re U.S. Dep’t of Educ., 25 F.4th at 702 (movant must show “the information sought . . .
cannot be obtained in any other way”); Lederman v. N.Y.C. Dep’t of Parks & Recreation,
731 F.3d 199, 203 (2d Cir. 2013) (movant must show “that the necessary information
cannot be obtained through other, less burdensome or intrusive means”); In re United
States, 197 F.3d 310, 314 (8th Cir. 1999) (movant must “establish at a minimum that the
[high-ranking officials] possess information . . . which is not obtainable from another
source”); In re United States, 985 F.2d 510, 512 (11th Cir. 1993) (holding extraordinary
circumstances did not exist because information was available from other sources);
Simplex Time Recorder Co. v. Sec’y of Lab., 766 F.2d 575, 586-87 (D.C. Cir. 1985)
(same).
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Some circuits require that to qualify as an extraordinary circumstance warranting
the deposition of a high-ranking official, the information sought must be “essential” to
the plaintiff’s case. E.g., In re U.S. Dep’t of Educ., 25 F.4th at 702; In re United States,
197 F.3d at 314. The Ninth Circuit observed that this requirement means the information
sought must be “absolutely needed.” In re U.S. Dep’t of Educ., 25 F.4th at 703.
District courts in Colorado and Utah have developed an extraordinary
circumstances test based on decisions from other circuits. Under that test, a party seeking
the deposition of a high-ranking official must show: “(1) the official has first-hand
knowledge related to the claim being litigated; (2) the testimony will likely lead to the
discovery of admissible evidence[;] (3) the deposition is essential to the party’s case[;]
and (4) the information cannot be obtained from an alternative source or via less
burdensome means.” E.g., White, 2014 WL 3373368, at *2; see also e.g., FTC v. Nudge,
LLC, No. 2:19-cv-00867, 2020 WL 6827682, at *2 (D. Utah Nov. 20, 2020) (same).
2. The District Court’s Ruling Is an Abuse of Discretion
In adopting an exception for whistleblower cases, the district court explained:
“[T]he court notes that it is difficult, if not impossible, to determine whether a
high-ranking official has information that is absolutely needed and that cannot be
obtained from any other source until the party has deposed the official and explored the
extent of the official’s knowledge.” Pet., Attach. 3 at 7 (internal quotation marks
omitted). The court thus concluded that “it is simply not possible to ascertain prior to the
deposition if the testimony is absolutely needed.” Id. at 8 (internal quotation marks
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omitted). Essentially, the district court deemed the extraordinary circumstances test
unworkable and therefore inapplicable in whistleblower cases.
But even in whistleblower cases, a deposition is unwarranted where the
high-ranking official is not the ultimate decision maker. This is true even in the Seventh
Circuit, which is the only circuit that arguably has adopted a less stringent standard than
the extraordinary circumstances test.3 In Stagman v. Ryan, 176 F.3d 986 (7th Cir. 1999),
the Seventh Circuit rejected the plaintiff’s attempt to depose the Illinois Attorney General
where the attorney general “was not personally involved in the decision to dismiss [the
plaintiff].” Id. at 994. The court held this was especially true in light of witness
testimony that others, not the attorney general, made the decision concerning termination.
Id. The circumstances here are the same. Ms. Romano and Mr. Green both testified that
Mr. Reyes was not the ultimate decision maker concerning Mr. Amann’s termination.
Indeed, Mr. Green, who was the ultimate decision maker, specifically testified he never
talked to Mr. Reyes about Mr. Amann and that he made his own independent decision.
In lieu of the extraordinary circumstances test, the district court examined only
whether Mr. Reyes’s deposition may yield admissible evidence. See Pet., Attach. 2 at 9
(concluding the deposition is “likely essential to establish a full and complete picture of
3 See Olivieri v. Rodriguez, 122 F.3d 406, 409-10 (7th Cir. 1997) (“[Public
officials] should not have to spend their time giving depositions in cases arising out of the
performance of their official duties unless there is some reason to believe that the
deposition will produce or lead to admissible evidence.”). Although the Seventh Circuit
has not abandoned the standard set forth in Olivieri, more recent district court decisions
in the Seventh Circuit have applied the extraordinary circumstances test without any
mention of Olivieri, see, e.g., Delaney v. Beth, 339 F.R.D. 610, 611 (E.D. Wis. 2021);
Jackson v. Scifres, No. 19-cv-1516, 2021 WL 3510805, at *1 (E.D. Wis. July 15, 2021).
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the circumstances surrounding Amann’s termination, including the degree to which
Reyes was involved”). We find this standard nearly indistinguishable from the general
discovery limitations described in Fed. R. Civ. P. 26(b)(1), 4 and therefore insufficient to
protect high-ranking officials from “spend[ing] an inordinate amount of time tending to
pending litigation,” Bogan, 489 F.3d at 423.
In holding that the extraordinary circumstances test does not apply here, the
district court observed that Mr. Reyes is not a federal official. It is true that in some
cases, separation-of-powers among the federal branches is an important consideration.
See In re U.S. Dep’t of Educ., 25 F.4th at 699 (“[W]e are tasked with determining
whether the district court, by denying the motion to quash the subpoena to depose the
former secretary [of education], inappropriately breached the barrier separating one
co-equal branch of the federal government from another.”). But the prospect of a federal
court ordering the deposition of a high-ranking state official presents similar concerns,
because our system not only separates power among branches of the federal government,
but also between the state and federal governments. See Gregory v. Ashcroft, 501 U.S.
452, 458 (1991) (“Just as the separation . . . of the coordinate branches of the Federal
Government serve to prevent the accumulation of excessive power in any one branch, a
healthy balance of power between the States and the Federal Government will reduce the
risk of tyranny and abuse from either front.”). Accordingly, many of the cases applying
4 Rule 26(b)(1) provides that the scope of discovery includes “any nonprivileged
matter that is relevant to the party’s claim or defense and proportional to the needs of the
case,” and that “[i]nformation within this scope of discovery need not be admissible in
evidence to be discoverable.”
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the extraordinary circumstances test involve state and local officials. E.g., Lederman,
731 F.3d at 203-04 (applying “exceptional circumstances” test to request to depose
mayor of New York City); Bogan, 489 F.3d at 423 (“The parties agree that Mayor
Menino is a high ranking government official and therefore is not subject to being
deposed absent a demonstrated need.”); Stagman, 176 F.3d at 994-95 (affirming district
court’s denial of plaintiff’s request to depose state attorney general); Denver Homeless
Out Loud v. Denver, No. 20-cv-2985, 2020 WL 7230641, at *1-2 (D. Colo. Dec. 8, 2020)
(applying extraordinary circumstances test to plaintiff’s subpoena of governor).
The district court also found it important that Mr. Reyes was named as a defendant
in his personal capacity, and suggested the extraordinary circumstances test does not
apply in such cases. But the district court cited no authority in support of this
proposition. At least where the claims arise from the high-ranking official’s duties, the
policy concerns underlying the extraordinary circumstances test are applicable regardless
of whether the official is named in his or her personal capacity. See Lederman, 731 F.3d
at 203-04 (applying extraordinary circumstances test to mayor, who had been named in
both personal and official capacities). Moreover, as the petitioners note, the district
court’s reasoning would allow plaintiffs to easily evade the extraordinary circumstances
test simply by naming high-ranking officials in their personal capacities.
In response to the petition, the district court also speculates that the extraordinary
circumstances test would allow high-ranking officials to avoid depositions in purely
private legal matters, such as personal injury cases having nothing to do with the
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official’s duties.5 No one is arguing, however, that the extraordinary circumstances test
should apply in every case where a public official is sued. In any event, our decision
today is limited to the case before us, which does not involve a purely private legal
matter. Instead, it involves a plaintiff’s request to depose a public official where the
claims arise from the official’s performance of his official duties.
The district court also held that even under the extraordinary circumstances test,
Mr. Reyes must be deposed because the evidence “not only suggests that Reyes has
first-hand knowledge related to Amann’s claims, but also raises the reasonable inference
that Reyes had an interest in how Amann’s situation was resolved.” Pet., Attach. 2 at 8
(internal quotation marks and citation omitted). But of course an attorney general, by
virtue of his or her place as the chief executive of the office, would have an interest in
personnel matters relating to the office. If mere interest were sufficient to satisfy the
extraordinary circumstances test, then depositions of high-ranking officials would be
required in every case involving personnel matters, regardless of whether the official was
personally involved in the termination.
Finally, the district court rejected less burdensome means for obtaining
information from Mr. Reyes. In particular, the district court observed:
5 In arguing that the extraordinary circumstances test does not apply here, the
district court characterizes Mr. Amann’s claims against Mr. Reyes as being unrelated to
governmental policy. But the extraordinary circumstances test applies not just in cases
involving an official’s implementation of government policies, but in cases involving an
official carrying out his or her official duties. See, e.g., Lederman, 731 F.3d at 203
(observing that “a high-ranking government official should not—absent exceptional
circumstances—be deposed or called to testify regarding the reasons for taking official
action” (emphasis added)).
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Unlike an oral deposition, written questions do not enable a party to ask
follow-up or clarification questions if the deponent’s response is evasive or
unclear. Similarly, written questions do not permit a party to pursue new or
unanticipated lines of questioning if the deponent provides unexpected
revelations. More importantly, in a case such as the one here, in which
credibility is central, written responses that are carefully crafted and edited
by attorneys are no substitute for the witness’s spontaneous answers during
a live deposition. Moreover, written questions deny the plaintiff the
opportunity of assessing the official’s demeaner and credibility.
Id., Attach. 3 at 13. By this reasoning, written questions would virtually never be an
adequate alternative to the deposition of a high-ranking official. We find this broad
rejection of a less-burdensome-means test to be an inappropriate substitute for a careful
examination of whether written questions to Mr. Reyes would be adequate in the
circumstances of this case.
In short, we hold that the district court’s analysis constitutes an abuse of discretion
warranting the issuance of a writ of mandamus. The district court inappropriately
departed from the extraordinary circumstances test, which is applied almost universally
by state and federal courts across the country. See Fern L. Kettler, Deposition of
High-Ranking Government Officials, 15 A.L.R. 3d, Art. 5, § 1 (“Nearly all courts require
that a party demonstrate exceptional circumstances justifying the deposition of a
high-ranking government official[.]”). Its reasoning would undermine the important
policies advanced by the extraordinary circumstances test. 6
6 Mr. Amann argues that a district court cannot abuse its discretion in the absence
of an applicable standard in the Tenth Circuit. But this is tantamount to saying that a writ
of mandamus can never be granted where there is no applicable standard. We reject that
assertion, especially given that one of the nonconclusive guidelines is whether the district
court’s order raises an issue of law of the first impression. In re Qwest Commc’ns,
450 F.3d at 1184.
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3. The Nonconclusive Guidelines Also Weigh in Favor of Granting the
Petition
Our determination that petitioners’ right to the writ is clear and indisputable is
further supported by four of the five nonconclusive guidelines listed in In re Qwest
Communications. First, as already noted, the petitioners have no alternate means to
secure relief. An interlocutory appeal is not available under the circumstances, see
28 U.S.C. § 1292, and it would be inappropriate for Utah’s highest-ranking legal officer
to secure an appeal by disobeying the court’s order and facing contempt charges, see In
re U.S. Dep’t of Educ., 25 F.4th at 705. Second and relatedly, the damage to Mr. Reyes
and the UAGO—in the form of Mr. Reyes being unnecessarily deposed—will not be
correctable on appeal. Third, as we have discussed, the district court’s order compelling
Mr. Reyes’s deposition is an abuse of discretion. And fourth, all of the parties agree that
the district court’s orders (compelling the deposition and denying the motion to
reconsider that decision) raise an issue of law of the first impression in this circuit.
D. Application of the Extraordinary Circumstances Test
Several district courts in this circuit have held that the party seeking the deposition
of a high-ranking official must show: “(1) the official has first-hand knowledge related to
the claim being litigated; (2) the testimony will likely lead to the discovery of admissible
evidence[;] (3) the deposition is essential to the party’s case[;] and (4) the information
cannot be obtained from an alternative source or via less burdensome means.” E.g.,
White, 2014 WL 3373368, at *2; see also e.g., Nudge, 2020 WL 6827682, at *2 (same).
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We find that this version of the extraordinary circumstances test sets the bar at an
appropriately high level.
Applying this test, it would appear that Mr. Amann has made a sufficient showing
as to the first two factors. There was evidence indicating Mr. Reyes had first-hand
knowledge related to Mr. Amann’s claim. In particular, he sent a text to his campaign
manager characterizing Mr. Amann’s claims as an effort to “burn us to the ground.”
Amann Resp. to Pet. at 16 (internal quotation marks omitted). There was also evidence
that Mr. Reyes was involved in discussions about who would be the ultimate decision
maker concerning Mr. Amann’s employment. It also seems likely that Mr. Reyes’s
deposition would lead to the discovery of admissible evidence. As the district court
observed, as head of the UAGO, “any statement made by Reyes would likely be
admissible against [UAGO] at trial.” Pet., Attach. 3 at 11.
Mr. Amann has not, however, made the requisite showing as to the third and
fourth factors. The result of the extraordinary circumstances test will most frequently
hinge on whether the party can prove that the deposition is “essential” to its case.
Something is “essential” if it is not only relevant, but “necessary.” In re United States,
197 F.3d at 314 (emphasis added); see also In re U.S. Dep’t of Educ., 25 F.4th at 703
(information must be “absolutely needed” to be deemed “essential”); Lederman, 731 F.3d
at 203 (requiring that the information sought be “necessary”). Mr. Amann has not
established that Mr. Reyes’s deposition is essential to his claim.
As for the fourth factor, Mr. Amann had the opportunity to depose Ms. Romano
and Mr. Green, who were themselves high-ranking officials at the UAGO. They were
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adequate alternative sources of information concerning Mr. Amann’s termination.
Indeed, they were actually better sources of information concerning the termination given
that they both testified Mr. Reyes had no involvement or influence in the decision to
terminate Mr. Amann. 7
III. Conclusion
We grant the petition for writ of mandamus and order the district court to vacate
its order compelling the deposition of Mr. Reyes. We further grant the pending motion
for leave to file an amicus brief and accept the amicus brief for filing.
Entered for the Court
CHRISTOPHER M. WOLPERT, Clerk
7 If as an alternative to a deposition the district court compels Mr. Reyes to
respond to interrogatories and later finds that Mr. Reyes has failed to make a good faith
effort to respond, Mr. Amann may renew his request for a deposition.
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22-4057, In re Office of the Utah Attorney General & Utah Attorney General Sean Reyes
HARTZ, J., dissenting.
I respectfully and reluctantly dissent. Because of the importance of protecting
high officials from the burdens of litigation, I fully agree with the adoption of the
extraordinary-circumstances test. But I think the district court correctly determined that
the circumstances here satisfy the test. Given the Attorney General’s interest in the
Plaintiff’s employment as shown by the conduct described in the last two paragraphs of
§ I.A. of this court’s order, particularly his two messages to his campaign manager and
his to-do list, I do not think there is an adequate substitute for a deposition to probe the
Attorney General’s involvement in the termination.
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